Conversation No. 9 – Talking with Jason

Jason is from Brooklyn, New York, “by way of Grenada, West Indies.” He was a third-year college student living in Washington D.C. at the time of his interview, and spent his days “studying and doing lots of reading.”

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Jason talked about the most important people he follows in his life, and on social media:

“The people I follow by example…definitely my mother would be at the top of the list. In terms of moral support, guidance, structure…my mother provides that.

In terms of looking at the world separate from the relationships with my close relatives…I follow the philosophy of Kanye West…I think Kanye completely revolutionized our culture.

The way we talk, the way we dress, the way we view college, the way we view the larger society we live in…he completely revolutionized it.”


We talked about his experience as a student at an HBCU (Historically Black College & University):

“When they told me that if I [go] to an HBCU, it’s not going to be diverse…I was like, ‘are you kidding me?! Do you know how diverse Black is?!’…just the color itself is diverse.

When you put our people in a box like that, and you treat us like we’re a monolith…like we’re just one thing…it takes our humanity away.”

Jason explained why he believes strongly in the importance of learning about his cultural history:

“If people of African descent just realize the contributions that their lineage has made to the advancement of humanity…that information alone with liberate them.

That information is powerful. Your people built the pyramids. Your people had sophisticated empires and sophisticated civilizations…if you only understood or were aware of the information…that alone is 50% of the task towards liberation.

Because the ultimate goal is always liberation, it’s always been liberation. 50% of the task is understanding it…the other 50% is praying and working towards it.”


We talked about what Jason thinks will need to occur in order for change to happen in our society:

“My argument is if the American national government decided that every person in America – like they did with the Common Core Standards – would [take] cultural education classes…to learn about Native American history, [to] learn about Asian-American history, [to] learn about Mexican-American history.. African-American history, African history…cultural education in general…people would be much better off, in my estimation.

Because there would be more of an appreciation for everyone’s culture. So the whole conversation of inferior and superior man…of racism…those things would diminish over time.”

“People have to know from birth that they are human beings, that they are valued. That they have value…that they matter…Black lives matter…people ought to be taught that…we all have to be valued, because we all are valuable.

We all have made contributions to the advancement of humanity; because we’re all human beings…people lose sight of that.”

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